circa 1965 - Source Broadgate Gnome Line up: Ray King (vocals), plus others. Barry Kingsbeer played a few gigs on bass with this band. Barry helped form The Chicanes.
Around ten years ago I went to a fascinating chat with local soul singing legend Ray King. During the talk he mentioned how, before his own Soul Band, he had linked up with a band called Suzi and The King Size Kings. At that time he was still known by his birth name of Vibert Cornwall.
Suzi left the King Size Kings and, at the same time, Vibert became known by his stage name of Ray King. The King Size Kings changed their name to the Ray King Soul Band. This would have been toward the end of 1965 and early 1966.
At face value I took it that The King Size Kings were named so because of Ray King's involvement. But that does not appear to be the case. In fact, if anything, Vibert possibly gained the Ray King name through being with the band.
It seemed as though The King Size Kings were formed and had a life of their own before Ray King ever became involved with them.
An article I came across from October 1964 mentioned: – 'A Coventry group who have been playing together for only four months won the first heat of a beat music contest. The group will now appear in the semi finals of the competition along with The Barry James Four, another Coventry group, who finished in second place. The heat was staged at the Police Ballroom, Coventry'.
The article went on to name the band members: 'The five member of King Size Kings, Tony Ashton (lead singer), Barry Toal (drummer), Rick Bradford (bass guitar), Paul Price (lead guitar) and Bob Neal (rhythm guitar) hope that the contest will lead to a recording contract and, perhaps, a professional career'. No mention of Ray King - or Suzi for that matter.
Fast forward to July 1965 and the King Size Kings had just taken third place at their quarter final heat at the Wimbledon Palais with six original numbers including one composed by all members of the group titled, 'I've Been Wrong'.
It was reported that: 'The five members of a Coventry group, the King Size Kings – in it's present form, only came together two months ago, but the group has won its way through to the semi finals of the 'Melody Maker' national beat contest'.
The article continued that 'The Kings will take part in a semi final on August 1st and, if successful, in the finals on August 15th. Paul Price (17) is lead guitarist of the group, which has existed for about eighteen months but the present members, all from Coventry, only recently came together. They practice and perform most nights in the week. Mr E.W. Price, Paul's father and manager of the group, told the Coventry telegraph that they enjoy it. 'Any other life would be boring' he said'.
Sadly the Kings were unsuccessful in the contest. They were beaten at the semi final stage held, once more, in Wimbledon. However they were voted top group in the Midlands popularity poll of 1965.
Incidentally, as for the outcome of this most prestigious of competitions: 550 groups had initially entered the various heats. Prizes for the winners of the national contest include a Decca recording contract. A new Hammond organ worth (at that time) £525. An appearance on ABC-TV's 'Thank Your Lucky Stars'. And a set of stage clothes from the tailors Cecil Gee (later to become a chain). For the runners up a Vox PA system worth £180 and third place won a Premier drum kit worth £140.
The final, yet again at the Wimbledon Palais, was judged by, among others, Graham Nash of the Hollies, TV producer Muriel Young and DJ Kenny Everett. The panel voted a group called St Louis Union as the overall winners. St. Louis Union went on to have one top twenty record, when they covered the Beatles song 'Girl' in 1966. King Size Kings need not have been disappointed in being beaten at the semi final stage. They were in good company. Amboy Dukes, the UK band (not the US version) also fell at the semi final hurdle As did another band who achieved real fame and fortune. And they were called The Pink Floyd.
Not knowing the exact time Ray King joined The King Size Kings means it is difficult to establish if he was involved with the Melody Maker national beat contest of 1965.
Overall all though, despite the King Size Kings being short lived, they quickly established themselves. They became incredibly busy and very popular in a short space of time.
Also it is not clear how many, if any of King Size Kings followed Ray King into his Soul Band. So some mysteries still remain.
Circa 1973 - 75 - Source Hobo 'Funky rock' according to Hobo. Toured Europe.
Jazz Rock Obviously the names comes from the poet Omar Khayyam.
Line up - Chris Jones - Lead Guitar, Steve Tayton - Sax / Clarinet / Flute. Harry Heppinstall - drums and percussion / later Jim Pryal. Dave Wickes - Bass guitar Rodney Joyce - Congas Later members Jim Pryal drums - Rick Medlock drums - Terry Brown Chris Jones had a blues outfit called The Chris Jones Aggression in the early 70's and had played with Just Jake.
Steve Tayton played at the Cov Arts Umbrella Jazz club in the late 60's and had been a member of Stavely Makepeace of which Lieutenant Pigeon was intended as a less serious offshoot. and Wave. Later with Quanna Parker and other outfits.
Harry Heppinstall had played in Wave and many other bands.
Dave Wickes had played in Just Jake
Rodney Joyce had managed 3AM c 1966/67
Both Hobo and the Coventry Evening Telegraph reported on this dynamic Jazz rock outfit who were resident at the Earlsdon Cottage and played London venues The Speakeasy and Ronnie Scotts, toured the continent and negotiated a record deal and appeared on Belgian and French network TV.
In Issue 2 of HOBO August 1973 we reported on the break up of Just Jake
"Chris Jones, lead guitarist and Dave Wickes, bassist, have joined the Jazz Rock group Khayyam(formerly Wave). The group have residencies at the Earlsdon Cottage on Thursdays and the Carousel in Hinckley on Monday nights. Other bookings include Ronnie Scotts, Pheasantry, Speakeasy and possibly the Rainbow."
In Febuary 1974 HOBO reported
"KHAYYAM formed from the Jazz/ Rock band Wave, are now set to make an album, privately, which will be produced by Roger Eames, who produces the jazz club on zee radio. Members Khayyam are, for persons interested - Steve Tayton - Saxaphones, clarinet, flute; Harry Heppinstall - drums and percussion; Rodney Joyce on congas and 'paint cans! ; Chris Jones on lead guitar and vocals. Dave Wickes on bass and keyboards."
HOBO spring 1974
"KHAYYAM seem set to knock the rocks off the music scene.. A group of very accomplished musicians making some incredible music in the Jazz rock field. They are currently negotiating a recording deal and a fortnight's residency in both Brussels and Amsterdam. After blowing the minds of the clientele who frequent the Speakeasy and Ronnie Scotts in London, they are set for regular spots at these venues. Said Sound Mixer John Bargeant (BO) (former HOBO co- editor) " Most places we've played have agreed to rebook us, it's incredible". Catching them in the act at Coventry's new rock venue - THE STEAM PACKET at the Tree Tops on sundays, I spoke to some of the audience to see what they thought. Some felt their music was 'too complicated' for them while the majority were amazed at the sounds theat were emanating from the stage. All agreed though that the musicianship was a of a very high standard. The audience at the Tree Tops was not the audience Khayyam normally play to it has to be said. Hobo wishes Khayyam success in the future."
HOBO summer 1974
"KHAYYAM - STIRRING THE DUST On the outskirts of Coventry, fair city, looms a big world which Khayyam have been pioneering, leaving their mark firmly embedded in the eardromes of their audiences in colleges and universities around the country, not to mention the Speakeasy and other haunts in the City of Royal! Word reaches me that they are one of the most talked about up and coming bands. The band are full of enthusiasm for the continental scene too, where they played LE PUSSYCAT ROCK in Brussels; The TIME MACHINE in Lieges; The RITZ in Antwerp. Their enthusiasm and that of their promoters is so great that already they have another tour arranged for Belgium and Holland. And a certain caged bird whispered to me on the quiet that a tour of the continent could occur in the near future, depending on developments. Those familiar with Khayyam's music from the Golden Cross or the Earsldon Cottage in Coventry maybe interested to know that their music is retaining that essential Khayyam sound, although it has become more funkier and rocky, loosing some of it's jazziness. This is owing to the recent departure of Sax player Steve Tayton. The stage performance has become funkier too."
In the foreground of this picture of Khayyam from the Earlsdon Cottage (Cov Evening Telgraph pic) you can see the editors of HOBO. On the left (back of the head view) is Trev Teasdel and on the right is John Bargent (BO). Bo was both co-editor of Hobo and promotor / manager of Trev Teasdel & Don't Talk Wet at the time but soon afterwards left Coventry to become road manager for Khayyam on their European tour. Later Bo returned to HOBO helping out at the Hobo Workshop in 1975
Memories from Jim Pryal " In 1975, I joined a band called Khayyam, who were a funk/jazz group with Chris Jones on guitar (Chris did quite a lot of work with Smackee later) and Rodney Joyce on congas and a bass player named Dave Wickes. They originally had a sax player named Steve Tatum and a jazzy drummer who left so the sound changed quite a bit with my style of drumming. This was another great band for me and was very well received by audiences. We played some great gigs of the day including The Speakeasy club, London (an exclusive club for pop stars et al - a bottle of whisky was 15 quid even then) The Greyhound Croydon, upstairs at Ronnie Scotts, London. Really quite exciting times. I got to meet 'Speedy' - Georgie Fame's bongo player and shared a couple of spliffs with him in his flat in London thanks to Rodney, the chief mover and groover. We got a few standing ovations but broken vans, on the dole - the usual musos tale of woe!! and it stopped. I'd quit my job and with a mortgage.........."
Steve Tayton
John Bargent (Bo) Road manager and former Hobo Editor
Chris Jones
KHAYYAM 1975 With Rick Medlock - Drums, Terry Brown - Chris Jones guitar.
Ludicrous Lollipops Were, according to Pete Chambers in Godiva Rocks " a student based Coventry Outfit. The Lollies released 2 singles and 2 EP's between 1990 - 92. Played 'Crazy Pop' in a Ned's Atomic Dustbin style. Were well received especially by Steve Lamacq at radio one, even clipping the national charts (1120 with the Scrumdiddlyuptous EP. Sadly in 92 it all went sour and the end was inevitable."
From Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludicrous_Lollipops "The Ludicrous Lollipops was a band formed in Coventry in the late 1980s. The initial members were all students at the University of Warwick who together produced a noisy, high tempo version of rock and roll. First and foremost a live act, they toured the UK extensively and attracted a loyal following who were dressed from head to toe in clothing from the band's extensive line of merchandise. The band was as active in its own marketing as it was with its music and members of the fan club were regularly sent information about the band, along with a free lollipop.
Their first record was the Mush EP, a 7 inch vinyl sleeved in luminous pink - luminous colours featured heavily with this band, from clothing to guitars and experimental hair styles. The EP was released on their own record label and sold several hundred copies. The band's career was given a boost when the NME's Steve Lamacq wrote a couple of favourable reviews and mentioned the band to the London A&R crowd who frequented the Bull and Gate in Kentish Town. This led to the band signing a publishing deal with London Records and a recording contract with Damaged Goods.
Was a short lived but great band that formed around the Coventry Arts Umbrella Club in 1971 by Al Docker after his band Tsar split up. I can't recall the full line up but the band consisted of -
Al Docker - Drums, Tony Cross - (Jazz pianist and keyboard player), Loz Netto (later of Sniff n the Tears - lead guitar, Paul Feltwell - (drama student at Coventry's Brooklands Drama collage.) lead vocals
I have a feeling Charles Bullen may have been in it too but not sure and a female violinist - the violinist, Charles and Al had been in the band Tsar.
The band rehearsed at the Umbrella club where Al Docker had once organised the bands and Tony Cross, a classically trained pianist, was on the Umbrella Executive committee.
Paul Feltwell and Loz Netto were studying drama at the Brooklands Annexe (where later Paul King also studied drama)
Love Zeus had a good sound and I recall them playing at Coventry's Belgrade Theatre and the Lanch Poly as well as the Umbrella Club.
"In 1986 or so Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox of The Eurythmics appeared as Guest VJs on MTV
. Dave chose the song "No More I Love You's" as one of his picks and made the reference that he had "discovered" The Lover Speaks. Eurythmics later covered the song."
From Pete Chambers in Godiva Rocks - " Hughes and Freeman were from Neil O'Conner's band The Flys. By 1986 the two were back together in The Lover Speaks (the name was taken from Roland Barthe's A Lover's Discourse. After getting their demo tape through to producer Jimmy Lovine (via Dave Stewart and Chrissie Hynd) they secured a deal with A & M Records. Releasing the eponymous LP in 1986. An album that boasted some carefully crafted atmospheric moments (a huge departure from the Fly's punky sound). The track (and i quote Freeman here). "That followed me like a slug". Was the single No More I Love You's, charting in the UK charts at 58. The band toured with the Eurythmics and had a second track from their album Every Lover's Sign (Remix) go to number 6 in the US hot dance music charts. A second album - The Big Lie, never saw the light of day and A & M let them go they say. That would be the end of the story if former Eurythmic Annie Lennox hadn't decided to cover No More I Love You's on her 1995 Medusa album. Eventually releasing the song as a single, achieving a No 2 in the UK and number 23 in the US. Dave Freeman likened it to a lottery win, claiming both himself and his accountant loved Annie's version of the song. Dave in the interim released countless low key solo albums."
The Lover Speaks - S/T [1986 full album] 00:00 Every Lover's Sign 04:38 No More "I Love You's" 08:43 Never To Forget You 13:06 Face Me And Smile 17:26 Absent One 21:42 Love Is: "I Gave You Everything" 26:11 "This Can't Go On!" 30:03 Still Faking This Art Of Love 34:26 Tremble Dancing 38:42 Of Tears
Beat group from Kenilworth band 1962 - 68 (Thanks to John Smith and The Broadgate Gnome site.)
Line up: Dave Smith (vocalist), Ray Dutton (lead guitar), Martin Gilks (rhythm guitar), Mick Scott (bass), Des Kendrick (drums) from 1964 the drummer was John Smith
Teenage beat group from Kenilworth, who recorded demos at Panthos Studios in 1965 including:
You Called Me, / That's Why I Can't Sleep At Night, / If I Were You and All Of The Day
Little girl Screaming formed in 1997 through an advert in Spinadisk Records in Coventry, and are still together. The band have had several line up changes, with only singer / guitarist Theresa Attwood and guitarist Chris Kendall being ever-present band members. The band have gigged extensively during their time together, and in 2007 they played at The Godiva Festival in Coventry.
The band’s song “Breathe” was once played on Dermot O’Leary’s BBC Radio 2 show, and their songs have also been played on Kerrang! Radio, XFM, and BBC Coventry and Warwickshire.
Channel 4 have used their music on a number of episodes of the extreme sports show “Freesports On 4”. Their music has also been used on The Extreme Sports Channel and has been used by O’Neill for one of their promotional surfing DVD’s.
BACK TO THE BAND INDEX Formed back in 1991 and established a rock/reggae/alternative sound. Influences include The Doors, The Clash, Nick Cave etc. Still writing and recording, although sadly the lead guitarist Craig Kerfoot has passed away.
Tracks on album - History / Harrowing Times / American know How / Nobody / El Loco Road / Secret Memory / Get Another Lid / Canal Girl / Daydream
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John Docker - bass (Check out his music blog on typepad http://covcitymusic.typepad.com/blog/ ) Craig Kerfoot - lead guitar. Dean Lovell - Vocs and rhythm. Darren Wood - Moog and keys. Martin Watts - Drums / percussion / Vocs Matt Ryder - percussion. Chrissie Hart - Lead guitar
Listen to tracks from Lies on Sound Cloud - http://soundcloud.com/dirty_dingo
Including History / Harrowing Time / Nodody / American know How.
Listen to further tracks on John Docker's Typepad blog including - Manhatten Tears / Playing with Time / Shark Attack / Mad Parade / Touch / Same Old Lies. http://covcitymusic.typepad.com/blog/
Caron Joyce - Vocals. Cary Lord - Bass. Ady Dix - Guitar. Tony White - Guitar
Steve Harrison - Drums replaced by Billy Gough (ex-Swinging Cats) - Drums
Toby Lyons (ex-Swinging Cats) - Keyboards. Pete Jordon - Sax
Caron had been in the Clique, Tony in the Editors. Tony then joined the Supernaturals.
Memories from Cary Lord- From Rex Brough
"Wow what memories!!! I was in the above mentioned band and was shocked at finding anything on the net!!! I played bass (Cary Lord), Ady Dix (Targets) was on guitar, and Steve played drums with us. Caron sang with us that much is correct. We did an EP with Human Cabbages that I regretfully have lost (has anyone got a copy???) We went through a few awful name changes but none as bad as L'homme de terre. How we ever came up with that I don't know!
We were second to Channel A (Stan Campbell - lead singer) in a battle of the bands held at the Lanch - I've still got the video!! We decided that we needed another guitarist and Tony White joined for a while from The Editors, Johnny Thompson from the Wild Boys as they had split up, and Toby Lyons from the swinging cats on keyboards for a while, but not all at the same time. Steve our drummer got fed up of the line-up changes and left - (he went on to marry Sonia who ran a pub in Coventry) Billy Gough (Swinging Cats) came in on drums with his brother Kip. We also had a fantastic sax player called Pete for a while - I don't remember his surname. He was in a band called the MP's before us. We rehearsed upstairs above the car showroom on the London road, sharing with Team 23, and Hot Snacks as they shared the same sound guy. It became Cabin Studios. Caron is married and living in Finham - I don't know if she is in a band."
Jim Pryal tells us " There was a change in lineup in Acorn and a band emerged with Derrick McConkey on bass and Mick Smitham on guitar. More on Mick in a while. It was called 'Liberation' and played a mixture of covers and originals. Many 'broken down van' tales ensued and all being on the dole except Phil, it disintegrated after about a year. We did a support slot with Johnny Johnson and the Bandwagon, remember 'Riding on the Pony Express'?"
Barrie Bernard - Bass, Sam "Widge" Kempe - Vocals, Tom Long - Lead - Guitar Tony Newman - Guitar, John Wallbank - Drums
Their only single was produced by the legendary Shel Talmy. They were spotted by Reg Calvert and became Pinkertons Assorted Colours. Then from Pinkertons to Flying Machine with a gold record in the USA with ‘Smile a little smile for me’.
Tom Long - via Facebook "All done and dusted in a day. Arrived at 2iis coffee bar at 10am loaded in downstairs and played through 3 numbers for engineer Glyn Johns, He said that's fine you're well rehearsed, be at IBC for 2 pm, by the way there will be a session man there. First time we met Jimmy Page. He turned up with a little amp in one hand and a De Armond pedal in the other. He borrowed a rather smart red Telecaster off an engineer at IBC under the pretext of being interested in buying it. Played the session and handed it back saying nice guitar but too expensive. (£80) ( Jim was a tightwad) We did all 3 numbers in 2-3 takes. Shel Talmy poked his nose in but Glyn Johns did it all. It was done on the 2 track machine because the 4 track machine was out of order. So few overdubs. Only the one I think. Main vocal was Tony Newman. Sam and I did some harmony. I worked most of it out with Tony in his front room.
Single It Hurts So Much / You Look So Fine - 1965
Probably summer 64. Recording session was feb 9 65. By the time we did the recording we had gone for short hair and the mod look.